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This journal is a reflection of my thoughts and experiences from the past several months. It's for anyone who is currently looking into hobbies or careers, not just art.

During my time as an artist, I get comments from people telling me that I have Inspired them to draw. I love that, I really love it when someone tells me that they started drawing because of my own work. It feels good knowing my work has that ability to provoke action in others. However, lately I had some close friends and associates get discouraged...to the point where they stop their strive altogether, because of my work.  This isn't speculation, it's direct information from the source. It's disheartening to see that happen, so if you are feeling the same way, please take note of the rest of this journal.

Don't strive for popularity.
This seems to be the root for the majority of problems I've seen. I've seen many beginners start drawing expecting a large amount of watchers and comments to happen.  Or an experienced artist with amazing abilities, get discouraged seeing another artist with a plainer style get 1000s of views.  It's all just statistics! The number of watchers, or the amount of views/comments you get does not matter. Worrying about this can drive you insane and take away the joy in creating something.

Comparing Yourself To Others
This could be good or bad. One, it could inspire to push harder and to expand your skills.  Two...it could discourage you altogether. Admittedly, the latter has happened to me personally time to time. I think everyone have experienced feeing insignificant at one point, it's okay and does happen. The way I snap myself out of that negativity, is by analyzing the artwork that discouraged me. Turning my thoughts "I can never do that" into "okay, how can I do that?" I then create small easy steps to train and improve myself.

Don't Hide
When discouraged, you may refrain or hide from the artwork or person that caused the anxiety. Don't hide! In fact it does more harm than good because you are preventing yourself from overcoming self-doubt. I've known some avoid my art live streams all together due to this, or even stop their streams if I happen to be live streaming myself. Again, that's normal. However, no one should hide themselves for those reasons. Keep looking at art and streams, to get inspired and for reference! Don't hide.

That's all I'll say for now, but the bottom line is...don't get discouraged.
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Yunama Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:'D i love you so much tsitra your amazing in every way! *hugs* thank you so much for these words keep being awesome!
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Jayesixx Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2014  Student Digital Artist
This sounds really awful but I get discouraged by you... You're the person who inspired me to become an artist, but then I look at your artwork and think "wow, why can't I draw like him" You're a fantastic artist, and I want to be able to create artwork like you. 
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sakuranoXXXXX Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2014   Digital Artist
I really love to draw, but, when i look at my friend's art or a random artist's art, sometimes i get inspired, but sometimes i get discouraged and feel bad about my skill and also my art (ノД`) "Your art is bad and you should feel bad!" thingy.

But i keep trying and striving hard to improve, by looking for references, tutorials, or experimenting new style :meow:
(Anyway, you can tell if you're improving or not by comparing your latest art with your old art, or you can redraw your old art with your current skills, or use those improvement memes or redraw memes :meow:)

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lightshadowsally Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
When I compare my art to others and get discouraged because they're so good I just look at my old art , and laugh at how awful my art was . I always keep my old art to compare and look at my improvement , but we all have different goals where drawing is concerned ,I want to get better at drawing bodies , hands , feet and eyes (and facial expressions) :)
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awesomeness8D Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This is very nice. I feel like I have a perspective of things. Hug 
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BlueFireballs Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014   Writer
There's now a fire inside me that can only be quenched by creating art:flame: 
*scrambling to find pencil*
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KittyWatchingHetalia Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Student Artist
I am fairly new to drawing and every time I show a piece of art that I have recently done to my friend she laughs at me. When  I ask her how it is funny she shakes her head and says she was thinking of something else but she says that at every art piece I show her. I feel really discouraged plus she is a better artist than me but won't show any art to anyone. What do you think I should do she usually nice but when it comes to drawing she a completely different person.
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Bobathan16 Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Student General Artist
If that 'friend' laughs at what you work hard on, then they aren't a friend at all. A real friend would acknowledge for what you try your best, and support you to help you get better. And besides, there is no better art. Everyone has their own unique ability of drawing, and you should be proud of what you do! Don't let yourself down just because of what one person thinks, they won't decide who you be, only YOU can make the desicion of going on or giving up. I suggest you have a talk to your friend and tell her that if she doesn't stop laughing at what you try on, then the friendship is OVER.

Wow, insparational moment there.:)
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KittyWatchingHetalia Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Student Artist
True that......I was having an emo moment Rose sweatdrop 
But thanks!
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Bobathan16 Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Student General Artist
You are very welcome!
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KittyWatchingHetalia Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Student Artist
Lovely Shoujo (Lovely Heart Dance) [V4] 
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wr0 Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Student Digital Artist
---E yep! always stay positive! draw because you love it! :la:
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Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There is one important thing you missed - strong will. You can strive for popularity and compare yourself to others, if you have strong will and you have your goals set clearly. You just need to follow your goal despite obstacles. I know it sounds cliche. Instead of getting sad, depressed and discouraged, an artist should be getting... angry and frustrated, which are turned into motivation, in order to push forward. Every failure should motivate to get better next time. Obviously, it's understandable you might get into negative attitude for some time, but snapping out of it at will is the key to success. It's like, you know, in sports. Some sportsmen will have a continuous series of failures, but they eventually prevail and win, while other will give up at the beginning.
Well, that's one way to do it. There are calmer approaches, like yours, but it's semi-possible if someone has weak personality. I talked to some people who were discouraged by overthinking things. Literally anything might be the impulse which will discourage them.
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seanway715 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
interesting message :) I agree with you Tsitra
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PkGam Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
YES! This is what I have been telling people for the longest time with anything.
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FrostwindL Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2014  Student General Artist
yup! all of that is true X3

you probably would remember me as the lil kid who copied every dragon art you had back then XD, specially that kindle reading a kindle. and the one who kept sending you notes to ask for critiques XD 

your spyro speedpaints are literally the ones that made me start drawing, i'm almost at my 3rd drawing anniversary.
though i did got discouraged up to the point of dropping art, i didnt drew for a whole year, i gotta say, that is usually the stormy period of a beginning artist, you know, that period where you lose your initial push that made you start.

even though your fandom changed to ponies, i still watched you and adored your art, the technique you use and developed ever the years is just amazing.

i owe this whole career to you X3 thank you for being there X3
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MasterVule Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I completely agree with you mate. Well said
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da-andi Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
Yes, yes and yes. A thousand times yes. I lived this all.
Something to add from my perspective/experience: Tutorials aren't talent served on a silver plate.
One does not learn how to draw perfectly rendered humans just by reading a lot of tutorials or books. I thought I can use these as a shortcut, but a while ago I realized thats not going to work...
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yukarilolz Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
I was journal browsing until I saw this, I can't tell you how much i've felt this. I have gone onto soo many peoples pages and found they have more views than, that always put me down. Now I realize that it's either they submit more frequently (Everyday... I can't not submit that quickly) or they draw better than me (In which I will practice..:P

I've never done the last one though....


I'll be sure to check out your art :)
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Hunting-wolf Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
First; Thank you for your journal!

For me, it's easy to feel disencouraged if I feel like no one really sees my work. And also be disencouraged if I feel like my work looks "worse than it should" compared to my age (almost 22, still draw like a kid :b)
I know I've got a looong way to go yet, because I've never really practised art as much as I know one should to become a good artist (and never been active enough on dA to get much attention). So what I'm trying to do lately is telling myself that I should relax more about it - as you say, not freak out if I don't get loads of views/comments, but instead take some joy in creating something, as well as working on becoming more active on dA, and then see if everything shouldn't turn out okay in the end :)
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AnnasLOLart Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
I think the mostb discurouging thing for me is that I always try my very best on commissions and requests and I ask 10 points or something and 
I don't get any commissions and than I see vector commissions being selled for 500 points!!! I still love drawing though and I changed my commissions back to requests. 
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HeFFatos Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
For me, the most discouraging experience is showing something I've done to friends. They ruin the whole joy listing a thousand things that aren't ok, because THEY'VE SEEN something of an epic quality, linking to it and telling me this is bad, this could be done like that. But the thing they don't understand is that it's not that easy and it requires time and some practice. While giving some advices about what may be wrong is good, raping someone's work is a no no.
So that's why I will never share my drawings to my closest friends in person. Just screw them.

Also, I totally agree with the first point. I've seen a lot of artists who have like daily-deviation skill, but have like 100 views on their drawings and people who draw in paint and have like one thousand watchers. Unless you're a god of drawing or have a lot of luck (most common) or "cheat", faving a milion drawings and then unfaving them (I see a lot of people doing that sadly), you won't be getting much exposure, so caring about it will take away all your joy of making something you like out of nothing. I had those moments of a sudden sorrow after drawing something just because of few views on those drawings, but I understood that and now I draw just for fun and to get better in it.

Thanks for an additional inspiration!
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Bendykins Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm generally don't have the time and inspiration to be active on dA, be it commenting or viewing streams. However, today this journal caught my eye, and when I read it, it was spot on. It hit me hard, really really hard. The first 2 points are shooting me all the time. I'm so glad I even bothered to check my inbox today :) Thanks to this, it made my day to remind me that I'm not the only person facing this problem, and I will do my best to overcome them. I really appreciate the effort of you writing this journal. :bye:
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Sukanar Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree whole heartedly. it is sometimes very hard not to get discouraged... but then you need to think about how much youve improved yourself and to look into the future when you get to where you wanna be. everyone is different and grows in their own way and time. and its always good to get help from other artists. everyone gets inspired by everyone else. i know i love learning from other artist since i am a self taught artist and am still learning things myself. but it is always good to get more reassuring words from fellow artists, just makes me wanna try harder! :D
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Agsu-von-Giest Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014   Traditional Artist
When I heard about you first time, I thought you're female. But when I watched some of your streams I understood that you're male with awesome talent. I agree with what you wrote and I really get some inspiration from your artworks and I like to learn new things how to make my artworks look better.
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OpticSpectrum Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
TSITRA360,

Do you believe that art is something you are born with? Like a natural talent where you already know things, start from scratch and sharpen those skills?
OR something that can be learned, like mathematics where you start from nothing and then improve from there?
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I've heard a story about someone who doesn't have any experience in art before, but painted a museum-tier masterpiece on her FIRST ever painting. Seriously, what the hay is that? Some people I've seen, no matter how many times they try or how hard they do, their art style and skills just doesn't go anywhere. It's all the same over and over again. It's like their body limits their creative skills.
With these observations, including many more, in my opinion is that creativity, especially in visual arts, is something you discover that you are good with.
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 I really want to hear your thought on this.
Thanks!
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cianid255 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
While I do agree on everything you said, Art is a skill, and any skill can be sharpened and thought, but sadly if you don't have the talent to envision the art you're making no matter how much you try your art will look and feel plain.

The fantasy and the imagination of your mind is the only driving force of the artists, their creativity breaks through the barriers of common sense, so yeah there are those prodigies who just take up art like its nothing and create masterpieces that would make your jaw drop.

But there are those that work hard on their art and find their own style of envisioning and bringing forth their own creativity, that's why there are as many styles as there are people. Every human being can find a way to express himself, for some its art, for some it could be song writing, Sculpting, cooking,  ect....

While a term artist encompasses many things like composition control, collor management, vision, imagination, talent some even go all out and throw all those rules out the window and create something that they love and feel it looks great.
One among them is Griffsnuff, she just does whatever she wants ;) and it still looks great even if it doesn't follow many of the ''rules'' of creating art and she's just winging it :dummy:
And then there are those that stick strictly to these ''rules'' and follow guidelines and perfect their art style to follow a certain pattern and how we should say vision? (like realism, semi realism, cartoon style, speed painting, background art, .ect)

So my point is, Art is a skill and a talent, a way of expressing yourself, and even a child can do that, it just depends if you want to keep working on it and develop your own style or will you follow those who already set some guidelines to help those who want to find their own style through many styles and inputs of others.

Hope this helps any and all inspiring artists :dummy:
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AffinityShy Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014   Filmographer
And the inspiration roller-coaster begins its ascension once again! Thanks Tsitra! ^_^ 
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Neko-kun67 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014
I have been guilty of all these at one time or another...
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ZippySqrl Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
When I see peoples art, even if it's "better" than mine, I don't get discouraged, because I know that they were once in my position, they are just another pony like me. As you have said before, an artist is not defined by their art, so it's not like they are some godly being that i'll never measure up to just because they are more practiced at the arts than I. Granted that ponies have different capabilities and may be able to pick something up quicker than others, but they weren't great from the start, they are where they are because they chose to take that path and they put in the effort.
I wish I had chosen to get properly into art at a much younger age, but better late than never, it doesn't matter if there are ponies my age or younger that have more experience behind them and therefore are more capable.On the note of similarly skilled ponies, nobodies skillset is identical, some ponies may be better at.. say.. drawing from real life than from imagination, or vice versa, it does not mean one is better than the other, it just means they have a different area of interest and different abilities, not better or worse abilities. ponies may compare themselves with artists that don't match their skillset, the contrast being a big factor for discouragement.
I often see the differences between myself and other artists, if I look at their works I can sometimes see errors they make that I don't, or areas where they could have done better, because nopony is perfect, I'm not perfect, they're not perfect.
I strive to be great, yes. I draw so I can share what goes through my head and I enjoy seeing other ponies enjoying my content, I strive to be popular just so more ponies can enjoy my work, but I don't let popularity be the reason for me to create. It'd be incredibly limiting to try and please everypony anyway, buck that, no, I draw what I want and ponies may like it, they might not. It's hit and miss, since it depends on the audience, its not that ponies simply dont like my stuff, is that the ponies who would just don't know about me yet, doesn't mean im bad at it.
Creative communities are interesting, lots of pointless commotion about different abilities, they just gotta sit down and find a new perspective.
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dbluebird89d Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Thanks Tsi XD you truly are great
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kingofraggedy Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014
Gah! There you go again! Making these inspirational journals, and providing encouragement to all your watchers... I can never be be as inspirational as you. What's the point...






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Love ya, Tsitra. ;P
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Pixiegav Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for the inspiration! ^^
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Dictating-domino Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
 I'm gonna actually add in some thing here that i have told friends of mine " you will never draw like me because you aren't me, you will either draw better then me or draw differently then me but you will never draw like me" 
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monky9997891 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
While I do understand that you shouldn't get discouraged if your art is unpopular, I also think that more attention towards your work is something you should strive to obtain.  The more people notice and enjoy your artwork, the more people you're making happy.

It sounds more to me like you're trying to say that aspiring artists a: shouldn't expect popularity, and b: shouldn't be pushy for attention, both of which are completely true.  There's an artist's creed that I normally try to follow if I ever feel discouraged:

1: I acknowledge that I suck.

2: I will try to suck less each and every day.

3: I will try to make others happy with the abilities that I possess.

Step one acknowledges your point on comparing yourself to others.  It doesn't matter how good you are; there will always be someone better to you and there will always be challenges.  You have to realize that they will happen and that you are always open to improvement or interpretation.

But you shouldn't stop there.  You should always strive to improve upon your abilities.  You should never be satisfied with yourself; always watch yourself growing.  The point isn't to be the best.  If you're making one person happy with your artwork, then you're on the right track.
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Icanhazmochi Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014
This... Thx Tsitra! ^.^
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davidsfire Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Student General Artist
This is a great thing to do and great to see because I seen that kind of mentality break people or friendship when they see the other person is better or gets more people to follow..... but you should just draw because its fun and if you do get famous or not you draw to relax or you enjoy it and that is what I do just to relax and try to improve its a great way to see that a talented person tries to motivate others and that is how it should be
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Banjoeman Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014
Yup seen countless artist fall into some of these.  Thanks for the wise words.
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Amana07 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
It was another artist's post that made me give up art all together.  I just felt dissuaded from even trying anymore.  The only art, if you can all it that, I do/make is literature with fan fiction.   
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Brother-Malachai Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014
As for the second one, if at all possible, if you love their styles/techniques, ask questions.  See if they are willing to share tips/mini-lessons with you.  Some ppl. wont', but some will. 
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ChordCatcher Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
This is very eloquently written, and I can relate to most of it. I recently 'gave up' drawing yet again, but not for the reasons above this time. I have become my own worst enemy and think all that I do is awful and end up erasing it before I give it a chance. 

After reading this, I'll definitely continue trying again. However, do you have any advice on how to overcome my own criticisms?
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asm1994 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This has completely made my day. ^^
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KawaiiJoltic Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Beautiful. Things like this inspire me to strive to be a better artist. You are so right about the popularity thing; it might be hard to feel unappreciated, but that doesn't mean people aren't good artists. There should be more groups for featuring undiscovered talent.
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AD4MV3 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It's great to see artists who mean to encourage others and talk about it openly. We're meant to help others up!

I'm just limited with resources for now, so I remember to take that into account before thinking I can't make a piece as amazing something someone with years of experience can do.

Also, that's a good point about telling everyone how important it is to keep standing out instead of shying away just because they're aware of the presence of someone they put above themselves. I love watching artists at work, and I try to learn off of what I see.

Thanks for the encouragement towards everyone! All of us can always use it.
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chibiBiscuit Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's not every day I see a journal worth faving. Thank you for the pep talk, I'm with you all the way. :D Great words of encouragement!
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Pinkiamena Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This made my day :) you are sooo awesomee
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Twiinyan Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is very well said. I agree with this 100%
Would you mind if I posted this in a journal of my own?
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Tsitra360 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014
You can, and link back here. :)
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xormak Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i never had that problem that i got discouraged..normal artblocks and that stuf...yes. but since i only do my artpieces for the lolz i get myself from doing them...it's enlighteneing my days and makes me doing something productive and not just playing games all day.

Watch out Tsitra...soon i will overthrow you MUAHAHAHA.....hahaha.....


good jounral =) nice to see some activity like that 
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chaltaq Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Well said! I don't think I could have put it any better myself.
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